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      <journal-id journal-id-type="nlm-ta">Arq Bras Cardiol</journal-id>
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        <journal-title>Arquivos Brasileiros de Cardiologia</journal-title>
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      <issn pub-type="ppub">0066-782X</issn>
      <issn pub-type="epub">1678-4170</issn>
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        <publisher-name>Sociedade Brasileira de Cardiologia - SBC</publisher-name>
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          <subject>Carta ao Editor</subject>
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        <article-title>Como Incorporar o Sistema de Detec&#231;&#227;o Diel&#233;trica Remota e o Ultrassom Pulmonar em Pacientes com Insufici&#234;ncia Card&#237;aca Congestiva Aguda</article-title>
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          <name>
            <surname>Izumida</surname>
            <given-names>Toshihide</given-names>
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          <name>
            <surname>Imamura</surname>
            <given-names>Teruhiko</given-names>
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          <institution content-type="orgname">University of Toyama</institution>
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            <named-content content-type="city">Toyama</named-content>
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          <country country="JP">Jap&#227;o</country>
          <institution content-type="original">University of Toyama, Toyama &#8211; Jap&#227;o</institution>
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        <corresp id="c1"><label>Correspond&#234;ncia:</label><bold>Teruhiko Imamura &#8226;</bold> University of Toyama &#8211; 2630 Sugitani Toyama <postal-code>930-0194</postal-code> &#8211; Jap&#227;o E-mail: <email>te.imamu@gmail.com</email> </corresp>
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      <pub-date date-type="pub" publication-format="electronic">
        <day>09</day>
        <month>05</month>
        <year>2025</year>
      </pub-date>
      <pub-date date-type="collection" publication-format="electronic">
        <year>2025</year>
      </pub-date>
      <volume>122</volume>
      <issue>04</issue>
      <elocation-id>e20250053</elocation-id>
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        <date date-type="received">
          <day>25</day>
          <month>01</month>
          <year>2025</year>
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        <date date-type="rev-recd">
          <day>29</day>
          <month>01</month>
          <year>2025</year>
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        <date date-type="accepted">
          <day>29</day>
          <month>01</month>
          <year>2025</year>
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          <license-p>This is an open-access article distributed under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution License</license-p>
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        <title>Palavras-chave</title>
        <kwd>Insufici&#234;ncia Card&#237;aca</kwd>
        <kwd>Hemodin&#226;mica</kwd>
        <kwd>Pulm&#227;o</kwd>
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      <bold>Ao Editor</bold>
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    <p>A avalia&#231;&#227;o precisa da congest&#227;o pulmonar &#233; essencial para o gerenciamento ideal da insufici&#234;ncia card&#237;aca congestiva. O sistema de sensoriamento diel&#233;trico remoto (ReDS) representa uma tecnologia n&#227;o invasiva desenvolvida recentemente, projetada para quantificar o volume de fluido pulmonar sem exigir conhecimento especializado. Kobalava et al. demonstraram uma correla&#231;&#227;o moderada entre o sistema ReDS e o ultrassom pulmonar.<sup><xref ref-type="bibr" rid="B1">1</xref></sup> No entanto, v&#225;rias preocupa&#231;&#245;es justificam uma discuss&#227;o mais aprofundada.</p>
    <p>No estudo atual, certos pacientes apresentaram achados mais elevados na ultrassonografia pulmonar (conforme indicado pela soma das linhas B), apesar dos valores mais baixos de ReDS (%).<sup><xref ref-type="bibr" rid="B1">1</xref></sup> Os autores poderiam fornecer uma explica&#231;&#227;o para essa discord&#226;ncia observada? Vale a pena notar que v&#225;rios fatores de confus&#227;o podem influenciar as medi&#231;&#245;es de ReDS (%). Por exemplo, ReDS (%) tende a ser subestimado em indiv&#237;duos com doen&#231;a pulmonar obstrutiva cr&#244;nica ou baixo &#237;ndice de massa corporal.<sup><xref ref-type="bibr" rid="B2">2</xref></sup></p>
    <p>Dada a variabilidade interindividual nas medi&#231;&#245;es de ReDS (%), compara&#231;&#245;es diretas de valores absolutos de ReDS (%) entre pacientes podem representar desafios significativos. Como alternativa, a raz&#227;o de ReDS (%) entre admiss&#227;o hospitalar e alta pode servir como uma m&#233;trica valiosa para avaliar a melhora da congest&#227;o pulmonar durante a hospitaliza&#231;&#227;o &#237;ndice.<sup><xref ref-type="bibr" rid="B3">3</xref></sup></p>
    <p>A defini&#231;&#227;o de congest&#227;o pulmonar significativa &#233; geralmente baseada em uma soma de linhas B igual ou superior a tr&#234;s, em vez de cinco.<sup><xref ref-type="bibr" rid="B4">4</xref></sup> Como a concord&#226;ncia entre o sistema ReDS e o ultrassom pulmonar seria afetada se esse limite revisado para congest&#227;o pulmonar fosse aplicado?</p>
    <p>Com base em suas descobertas, como o sistema ReDS e o ultrassom pulmonar podem ser integrados de forma ideal &#224; pr&#225;tica cl&#237;nica? Por exemplo, sugerimos utilizar o sistema ReDS para coortes de pacientes menos criticamente doentes, pois ele &#233; particularmente eficaz na identifica&#231;&#227;o de congest&#227;o pulmonar subcl&#237;nica.<sup><xref ref-type="bibr" rid="B4">4</xref></sup> Por outro lado, o ultrassom pulmonar pode ser mais apropriado para pacientes gravemente enfermos, pois esses indiv&#237;duos geralmente enfrentam desafios para assumir uma posi&#231;&#227;o sentada com respira&#231;&#227;o natural, o que &#233; necess&#225;rio para a aplica&#231;&#227;o e medi&#231;&#227;o adequadas do dispositivo ReDS.<sup><xref ref-type="bibr" rid="B2">2</xref></sup> O ultrassom pulmonar pode ser aplicado sem a coopera&#231;&#227;o do paciente.</p>
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      <p>Uma propor&#231;&#227;o significativa de pacientes apresentou um resultado desfavor&#225;vel na gravidade da congest&#227;o ao utilizar ultrassom pulmonar e ReDS. A congest&#227;o foi detectada com mais frequ&#234;ncia pelo ReDS do que pelo ultrassom, no entanto, houve observa&#231;&#245;es isoladas com resultados opostos. Infelizmente, dada a limita&#231;&#227;o da nossa amostra, n&#227;o seremos capazes de fornecer diferen&#231;as estatisticamente confirmadas entre grupos de pacientes com um desfecho desfavor&#225;vel e grupos com desfechos semelhantes. No entanto, com base em dados da literatura e em nossa pr&#243;pria experi&#234;ncia cl&#237;nica, podemos dizer que algumas caracter&#237;sticas dos pacientes podem ter o efeito oposto nos dados obtidos pelo ReDS e pelo ultrassom. Assim, a obesidade subestimar&#225; o n&#250;mero de linhas B&#185; e superestimar&#225; o valor do ReDS&#178; e vice-versa, com um peso corporal mais baixo. Em pacientes com DPOC/BA, o n&#250;mero de linhas B pode ser tamb&#233;m paradoxalmente alto, mesmo na aus&#234;ncia de insufici&#234;ncia card&#237;aca,&#179; e, de acordo com o ReDS, a congest&#227;o nesses pacientes pode n&#227;o ser acentuada.<sup><xref ref-type="bibr" rid="B8">4</xref></sup> Embora seja mais frequentemente representada por observa&#231;&#245;es individuais, em nosso trabalho tamb&#233;m observamos uma congest&#227;o estatisticamente significativamente mais baixa em pacientes com DPOC concomitante. Tamb&#233;m observamos uma correla&#231;&#227;o negativa do ReDS com a idade, na aus&#234;ncia de rela&#231;&#227;o entre idade e o n&#250;mero de linhas B. Curiosamente, o maior n&#250;mero de resultados discordantes foi na alta, o que provavelmente reflete a taxa diferente de elimina&#231;&#227;o da congest&#227;o em diferentes compartimentos (vascular, intersticial, etc.).</p>
      <p>A din&#226;mica do ReDS durante a hospitaliza&#231;&#227;o pode ser avaliada por diferentes m&#233;todos, e a raz&#227;o entre o valor do ReDS na alta e na admiss&#227;o<sup><xref ref-type="bibr" rid="B9">5</xref></sup> pode ter um valor progn&#243;stico maior do que a presen&#231;a/aus&#234;ncia de congest&#227;o na alta, determinada por valores padr&#227;o. No entanto, o valor preditivo do ReDS n&#227;o foi avaliado no &#226;mbito do trabalho publicado. Deve-se observar que o valor da raz&#227;o proposto de &gt;100% reflete apenas a aus&#234;ncia de din&#226;mica positiva (ou din&#226;mica negativa). Deve-se ressaltar que a maioria dos pacientes ter&#225; din&#226;mica positiva; para eles, a conclus&#227;o sobre a raz&#227;o &lt;100% &#233; irrelevante, sendo que &#233; a presen&#231;a de congest&#227;o residual na alta que exige avalia&#231;&#227;o nesses pacientes para entender as t&#225;ticas e os riscos subsequentes. Al&#233;m disso, essa raz&#227;o pode ser interpretada de forma equivocada em pacientes com insufici&#234;ncia ventricular direita.</p>
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      <article-id pub-id-type="doi">10.36660/abc.20250053i</article-id>
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          <subject>Letter to the Editor</subject>
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        <article-title>How to Incorporate Remote Dielectric Sensing System and Lung Ultrasound in Patients with Acute Congestive Heart Failure</article-title>
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          <name>
            <surname>Izumida</surname>
            <given-names>Toshihide</given-names>
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            <sup>1</sup>
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          <name>
            <surname>Imamura</surname>
            <given-names>Teruhiko</given-names>
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          <xref ref-type="aff" rid="aff3">
            <sup>1</sup>
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          <label>1</label>
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            <named-content content-type="city">Toyama</named-content>
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          <country country="JP">Japan</country>
          <institution content-type="original">University of Toyama, Toyama &#8211; Japan</institution>
        </aff>
      </contrib-group>
      <author-notes>
        <corresp id="c2"><label>Mailing Address:</label><bold>Teruhiko Imamura &#8226;</bold> University of Toyama &#8211; 2630 Sugitani Toyama 930-0194 &#8211; Japan E-mail: <email>te.imamu@gmail.com</email> </corresp>
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        <title>Keywords</title>
        <kwd>Heart Failure</kwd>
        <kwd>Hemodynamics</kwd>
        <kwd>Lung</kwd>
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      <p>
        <bold>To Editor</bold>
      </p>
      <p>Accurate assessment of pulmonary congestion is pivotal for the optimal management of congestive heart failure. The remote dielectric sensing (ReDS) system represents a recently developed non-invasive technology designed to quantify lung fluid volume without requiring specialized expertise. Kobalava et al. demonstrated a moderate correlation between the ReDS system and lung ultrasound.<sup><xref ref-type="bibr" rid="B1">1</xref></sup> However, several concerns warrant further discussion.</p>
      <p>In the current study, certain patients exhibited higher lung ultrasound findings (as indicated by the sum of B-lines) despite lower ReDS (%) values.<sup><xref ref-type="bibr" rid="B1">1</xref></sup> Could the authors provide an explanation for this observed discordance? It is worth noting that various confounding factors may influence ReDS (%) measurements. For example, ReDS (%) tends to be underestimated in individuals with chronic obstructive pulmonary disease or low body mass index.<sup><xref ref-type="bibr" rid="B2">2</xref></sup></p>
      <p>Given the inter-individual variability in ReDS (%) measurements, direct comparisons of absolute ReDS (%) values across patients may pose significant challenges. As an alternative, the ratio of ReDS (%) between hospital admission and discharge could serve as a valuable metric to evaluate the improvement of pulmonary congestion during the index hospitalization.<sup><xref ref-type="bibr" rid="B3">3</xref></sup></p>
      <p>The definition of significant pulmonary congestion is generally based on a sum of B-lines equal to or exceeding three rather than five.<sup><xref ref-type="bibr" rid="B4">4</xref></sup> How would the concordance between the ReDS system and lung ultrasound be affected if this revised threshold for pulmonary congestion were applied?</p>
      <p>Building upon their findings, how might the ReDS system and lung ultrasound be optimally integrated into clinical practice? For instance, we suggest utilizing the ReDS system for less critically ill patient cohorts, as it is particularly effective in identifying subclinical pulmonary congestion.<sup><xref ref-type="bibr" rid="B4">4</xref></sup> Conversely, lung ultrasound may be more appropriate for critically ill patients, as these individuals often face challenges in assuming a seated position with natural breathing, which is required for proper ReDS device application and measurement.<sup><xref ref-type="bibr" rid="B2">2</xref></sup> The lung ultrasound can be applied without patients&#8217; cooperation.</p>
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          <name>
            <surname>Kobalava</surname>
            <given-names>Zhanna</given-names>
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            <sup>1</sup>
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        <contrib contrib-type="author">
          <name>
            <surname>Safarova</surname>
            <given-names>Ayten Fuadovna</given-names>
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          <xref ref-type="aff" rid="aff4">
            <sup>1</sup>
          </xref>
        </contrib>
        <contrib contrib-type="author">
          <contrib-id contrib-id-type="orcid">0000-0001-6847-8797</contrib-id>
          <name>
            <surname>Tolkacheva</surname>
            <given-names>Veronika</given-names>
          </name>
          <xref ref-type="aff" rid="aff4">
            <sup>1</sup>
          </xref>
        </contrib>
        <contrib contrib-type="author">
          <contrib-id contrib-id-type="orcid">0000-0002-2334-6675</contrib-id>
          <name>
            <surname>Montoya</surname>
            <given-names>Flora Elisa Cabello</given-names>
          </name>
          <xref ref-type="aff" rid="aff4">
            <sup>1</sup>
          </xref>
        </contrib>
        <contrib contrib-type="author">
          <name>
            <surname>Zorya</surname>
            <given-names>Olga Tairovna</given-names>
          </name>
          <xref ref-type="aff" rid="aff4">
            <sup>1</sup>
          </xref>
        </contrib>
        <contrib contrib-type="author">
          <name>
            <surname>Nazarov</surname>
            <given-names>Ivan Sergeevich</given-names>
          </name>
          <xref ref-type="aff" rid="aff4">
            <sup>1</sup>
          </xref>
        </contrib>
        <contrib contrib-type="author">
          <name>
            <surname>Lapshin</surname>
            <given-names>Artem Alekseevich</given-names>
          </name>
          <xref ref-type="aff" rid="aff4">
            <sup>1</sup>
          </xref>
        </contrib>
        <contrib contrib-type="author">
          <name>
            <surname>Smirnov</surname>
            <given-names>Ilya Pavlovich</given-names>
          </name>
          <xref ref-type="aff" rid="aff4">
            <sup>1</sup>
          </xref>
        </contrib>
        <contrib contrib-type="author">
          <name>
            <surname>Khutsishvili</surname>
            <given-names>Nutsiko Ivanovna</given-names>
          </name>
          <xref ref-type="aff" rid="aff4">
            <sup>1</sup>
          </xref>
        </contrib>
        <contrib contrib-type="author">
          <contrib-id contrib-id-type="orcid">0000-0002-6874-8213</contrib-id>
          <name>
            <surname>Vatsik-Gorodetskaya</surname>
            <given-names>Maria</given-names>
          </name>
          <xref ref-type="aff" rid="aff4">
            <sup>1</sup>
          </xref>
        </contrib>
        <aff id="aff4">
          <label>1</label>
          <institution content-type="orgname">RUDN University</institution>
          <addr-line>
            <named-content content-type="city">Moskva</named-content>
          </addr-line>
          <country country="RU">Russia</country>
          <institution content-type="original">RUDN University, Moskva, Moskovskaa oblast&#8217; &#8211; Russia</institution>
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      <p>A significant proportion of patients had an unfavorable result in the severity of congestion when using lung ultrasound and ReDS. Congestion was more often detected by ReDS than by ultrasound, however, there were isolated observations with opposite results. Unfortunately, given the limitations of our sample, we will not be able to provide statistically confirmed differences between groups of patients with a discounted outcome and groups with matching outcomes. However, based on literature data and our own clinical experience, we can say that some characteristics of patients may have the opposite effect on the obtained ReDS and ultrasound data. Thus, obesity will underestimate the number of B-lines<sup><xref ref-type="bibr" rid="B1">1</xref></sup> and overestimate the value of ReDS<sup><xref ref-type="bibr" rid="B2">2</xref></sup> and vice versa with a lower body weight. In patients with COPD/BA, the number of B-lines may also be paradoxically high even in the absence of heart failure,<sup><xref ref-type="bibr" rid="B3">3</xref></sup> and according to ReDS, congestion in such patients may be not marked.<sup><xref ref-type="bibr" rid="B4">4</xref></sup> Although it is more often represented by individual observations, in our work we also noted a statistically significantly lower congestion in patients with concomitant COPD. We also noted a negative correlation of ReDS with age, in the absence of a relationship between age and the number of B-lines. Interestingly, the greatest number of discordant results was at discharge, which probably reflects the different rate of elimination of congestion in different compartments (vascular, interstitial, etc.).</p>
      <p>The dynamics of ReDS during hospitalization can be assessed by different methods, and the ratio of the ReDS value at discharge and admission<sup><xref ref-type="bibr" rid="B5">5</xref></sup> may have a prognostic value greater than the presence/absence of congestion at discharge, determined by standard values. However, the predictive value of ReDS was not evaluated in the framework of the published work. It should be noted that the proposed ratio value of &gt;100% only reflects the absence of positive dynamics (or negative dynamics). It should be noted that most patients will have positive dynamics, for them the conclusion about the ratio &lt;100% is meaningless, it is the presence of residual congestion at discharge that requires assessment in such patients to understand further tactics and risks. In addition, this ratio may be misinterpreted in patients with right ventricular failure.</p>
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