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    <journal-meta>
      <journal-id journal-id-type="nlm-ta">Arq Bras Cardiol</journal-id>
      <journal-id journal-id-type="publisher-id">abc</journal-id>
      <journal-title-group>
        <journal-title>Arquivos Brasileiros de Cardiologia</journal-title>
        <abbrev-journal-title abbrev-type="publisher">Arq. Bras. Cardiol.</abbrev-journal-title>
      </journal-title-group>
      <issn pub-type="ppub">0066-782X</issn>
      <issn pub-type="epub">1678-4170</issn>
      <publisher>
        <publisher-name>Sociedade Brasileira de Cardiologia - SBC</publisher-name>
      </publisher>
    </journal-meta>
    <article-meta>
      <article-id pub-id-type="publisher-id" specific-use="scielo-v3">YWJf5RRJzpX86xwPYSmznbJ</article-id>
      <article-id pub-id-type="publisher-id" specific-use="scielo-v2">S0066-782X2018000600602</article-id>
      <article-id pub-id-type="doi">10.5935/abc.20180096</article-id>
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        <subj-group subj-group-type="heading">
          <subject>Letter to the Editor</subject>
        </subj-group>
      </article-categories>
      <title-group>
        <article-title>QTc and QTcd Measurements and Their Relationships with Left Ventricular Hypertrophy in Hemodialysis Patients</article-title>
      </title-group>
      <contrib-group>
        <contrib contrib-type="author">
          <name>
            <surname>Yasri</surname>
            <given-names>Sora</given-names>
          </name>
          <xref ref-type="aff" rid="aff1">1</xref>
          <xref ref-type="corresp" rid="c1"/>
        </contrib>
        <contrib contrib-type="author">
          <name>
            <surname>Wiwanitkit</surname>
            <given-names>Viroj</given-names>
          </name>
          <xref ref-type="aff" rid="aff2">2</xref>
        </contrib>
      </contrib-group>
      <aff id="aff1">
        <label>1</label>
        <institution content-type="orgname">KMT Primary Care Center</institution>
        <addr-line>
          <city>Bangkok</city>
        </addr-line>
        <country country="TH">Tail&#226;ndia</country>
        <institution content-type="original">KMT Primary Care Center, Bangkok, Tail&#226;ndia</institution>
      </aff>
      <aff id="aff2">
        <label>2</label>
        <institution content-type="orgname">Hainan Medical University</institution>
        <addr-line>
          <city>Haikou</city>
        </addr-line>
        <country country="CN">China</country>
        <institution content-type="original">Hainan Medical University, Haikou, China</institution>
      </aff>
      <author-notes>
        <corresp id="c1"><bold>Mailing Address: Sora Yasri.</bold> KMT Primary Care Center. 10330, Bangkok - Thailand. Email: <email>sorayasri@outlook.co.th</email>
				</corresp>
      </author-notes>
      <pub-date pub-type="epub-ppub">
        <month>06</month>
        <year>2018</year>
      </pub-date>
      <volume>110</volume>
      <issue>6</issue>
      <fpage>602</fpage>
      <lpage>602</lpage>
      <history>
        <date date-type="received">
          <day>02</day>
          <month>10</month>
          <year>2017</year>
        </date>
        <date date-type="rev-recd">
          <day>14</day>
          <month>03</month>
          <year>2018</year>
        </date>
        <date date-type="accepted">
          <day>14</day>
          <month>03</month>
          <year>2018</year>
        </date>
      </history>
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          <license-p>This is an Open Access article distributed under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution License, which permits unrestricted use, distribution, and reproduction in any medium, provided the original work is properly cited.</license-p>
        </license>
      </permissions>
      <kwd-group xml:lang="en">
        <title>Keywords</title>
        <kwd>Hypertrophy, Left Ventricular</kwd>
        <kwd>Renal Dialysis</kwd>
        <kwd>Electrocardiography</kwd>
      </kwd-group>
    </article-meta>
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    <p>Editor,</p>
    <p>We read the publication on "QTc and QTcd Measurements and Their Relationships with Left Ventricular Hypertrophy in Hemodialysis Patients", which is very interesting.<xref ref-type="bibr" rid="B1">1</xref> Alonso et al.<xref ref-type="bibr" rid="B1">1</xref> concluded that "We found that QTc interval, in contrast to QTcd, is a reproducible and reliable measure and had a weak but positive correlation with LVMi in HD patients." This report used an unmatched control group; hence, the selection bias can be expected. In fact, the hypertrophy might be expected in a hemodialysis patient who might have underlying metabolic syndrome and vascular disease.<xref ref-type="bibr" rid="B2">2</xref> To test the reproducibility, the repeated analysis is needed and there is a need to assess the within-run and between-run precision. In the present report, one cannot conclude that the test has a good reproducibility.</p>
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      <title>References</title>
      <ref id="B1">
        <label>1</label>
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              <surname>Alonso</surname>
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            </name>
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              <surname>Lima</surname>
              <given-names>VAC</given-names>
            </name>
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              <surname>Carreira</surname>
              <given-names>MAM</given-names>
            </name>
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              <surname>Lugon</surname>
              <given-names>JR</given-names>
            </name>
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              <surname>Navaneethan</surname>
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            </name>
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              <surname>Francis</surname>
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              <surname>Tang</surname>
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            </name>
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      <title-group>
        <article-title>Reply</article-title>
      </title-group>
      <contrib-group>
        <contrib contrib-type="author">
          <name>
            <surname>Alonso</surname>
            <given-names>Maria Ang&#233;lica Gon&#231;alves</given-names>
          </name>
        </contrib>
        <contrib contrib-type="author">
          <name>
            <surname>Lima</surname>
            <given-names>Valentine de Almeida Costa de Castro</given-names>
          </name>
        </contrib>
        <contrib contrib-type="author">
          <name>
            <surname>Carreira</surname>
            <given-names>Maria Angela Magalh&#227;es de Queiroz</given-names>
          </name>
        </contrib>
        <contrib contrib-type="author">
          <name>
            <surname>Lugon</surname>
            <given-names>Jocemir Ronaldo</given-names>
          </name>
        </contrib>
      </contrib-group>
    </front-stub>
    <body>
      <p>Thank you for your comments regarding our paper.</p>
      <p>Our report was a case-control study with hemodialysis patients recruited from a single dialysis center and a control group matched by gender and age without overt kidney disease. For evaluation of the reproducibility and reliability of QTc and QTcd measures, intra- and inter-observer correlation and concordance tests were performed employing Pearson&#180;s correlation, Cohen's Kappa coefficient and Bland Altman diagram. Two observers (unaware of the results from each other) manually measured the QT interval and its dispersion in the same electrocardiographic tracing at two different times with a one-week interval between measurements. Most of the previous studies that considered the reproducibility of the QTc and QTcd measurements, used only one method of evaluation, especially the correlation coefficient test without contemplating concordance tests. We applied three different types of tests, with two different observers coming to a likely conclusion of good QTc reproducibility. In contrast, QTcd does not seem to be a reliable and reproducible measurement.</p>
      <p>The present study carries some limitations such as the relatively small number of patients and the exclusion criteria. Further studies performed on larger patient populations are needed to determine the optimal time to measure these parameters (pre-dialysis, during dialysis, or after dialysis), as well as the standardization of cutoff points for these parameters, techniques of measurements and correction for heart rate.</p>
      <p>
        <bold>Sincerely,</bold>
      </p>
      <p>Maria Ang&#233;lica Gon&#231;alves Alonso</p>
      <p>Valentine de Almeida Costa de Castro Lima</p>
      <p>Maria Angela Magalh&#227;es de Queiroz Carreira</p>
      <p>Jocemir Ronaldo Lugon</p>
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      <article-categories>
        <subj-group subj-group-type="heading">
          <subject>Carta ao Editor</subject>
        </subj-group>
      </article-categories>
      <title-group>
        <article-title>Medidas de QTc e QTcd e suas Rela&#231;&#245;es com Hipertrofia Ventricular Esquerda em Pacientes em Hemodi&#225;lise</article-title>
      </title-group>
      <contrib-group>
        <contrib contrib-type="author">
          <name>
            <surname>Yasri</surname>
            <given-names>Sora</given-names>
          </name>
          <xref ref-type="aff" rid="aff3">1</xref>
          <xref ref-type="corresp" rid="c2"/>
        </contrib>
        <contrib contrib-type="author">
          <name>
            <surname>Wiwanitkit</surname>
            <given-names>Viroj</given-names>
          </name>
          <xref ref-type="aff" rid="aff4">2</xref>
        </contrib>
      </contrib-group>
      <aff id="aff3">
        <label>1</label>
        <institution content-type="original">KMT Primary Care Center, Bangkok, Tail&#226;ndia</institution>
      </aff>
      <aff id="aff4">
        <label>2</label>
        <institution content-type="original">Hainan Medical University, Haikou, China</institution>
      </aff>
      <author-notes>
        <corresp id="c2"><bold>Correspond&#234;ncia: Sora Yasri.</bold> KMT Primary Care Center. 10330, Bangkok, Tail&#226;ndia. Email: <email>sorayasri@outlook.co.th</email>
				</corresp>
      </author-notes>
      <kwd-group xml:lang="pt">
        <title>Palavras-chave</title>
        <kwd>Hipertrofia Ventricular Esquerda</kwd>
        <kwd>Di&#225;lise Renal</kwd>
        <kwd>Eletrocardiografia</kwd>
      </kwd-group>
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    <body>
      <p>Caro Editor,</p>
      <p>Lemos a publica&#231;&#227;o sobre "Medidas de QTc e QTcd e suas Rela&#231;&#245;es com a Hipertrofia Ventricular Esquerda em Pacientes em Hemodi&#225;lise", que &#233; muito interessante.<xref ref-type="bibr" rid="B1">1</xref> Alonso et al.,<xref ref-type="bibr" rid="B1">1</xref> conclu&#237;ram que "Descobrimos que o intervalo QTc, em contraste com o QTcd, &#233; uma medida reprodut&#237;vel e confi&#225;vel e mostrou uma correla&#231;&#227;o fraca, mas positiva, com o IMVE em pacientes em HD". Esse estudo utilizou um grupo de controle n&#227;o-pareado; portanto, pode-se esperar o vi&#233;s de sele&#231;&#227;o. De fato, a hipertrofia pode ser esperada em um paciente em hemodi&#225;lise que poderia ter s&#237;ndrome metab&#243;lica e doen&#231;a vascular subjacentes.<xref ref-type="bibr" rid="B2">2</xref> Para testar a reprodutibilidade, &#233; necess&#225;ria a repeti&#231;&#227;o da an&#225;lise e h&#225; uma necessidade de avaliar a precis&#227;o intra- e inter-an&#225;lise. No presente relato, n&#227;o &#233; poss&#237;vel concluir que o teste tenha boa reprodutibilidade.</p>
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      <front-stub>
        <title-group>
          <article-title>Carta-resposta</article-title>
        </title-group>
        <contrib-group>
          <contrib contrib-type="author">
            <name>
              <surname>Alonso</surname>
              <given-names>Maria Ang&#233;lica Gon&#231;alves</given-names>
            </name>
          </contrib>
          <contrib contrib-type="author">
            <name>
              <surname>Lima</surname>
              <given-names>Valentine de Almeida Costa de Castro</given-names>
            </name>
          </contrib>
          <contrib contrib-type="author">
            <name>
              <surname>Carreira</surname>
              <given-names>Maria Angela Magalh&#227;es de Queiroz</given-names>
            </name>
          </contrib>
          <contrib contrib-type="author">
            <name>
              <surname>Lugon</surname>
              <given-names>Jocemir Ronaldo</given-names>
            </name>
          </contrib>
        </contrib-group>
      </front-stub>
      <body>
        <p>Agradecemos seus coment&#225;rios sobre o nosso trabalho.</p>
        <p>Nosso relato foi um estudo caso-controle com pacientes em hemodi&#225;lise recrutados de um &#250;nico centro de di&#225;lise e um grupo controle pareado por sexo e idade sem doen&#231;a renal evidente. Para avalia&#231;&#227;o da reprodutibilidade e confiabilidade das medidas de QTc e QTcd, os testes de correla&#231;&#227;o e concord&#226;ncia intra- e inter-observador foram realizados empregando-se a correla&#231;&#227;o de Pearson, coeficiente Kappa de Cohen e diagrama de Bland-Altman. Dois observadores (sem ter conhecimento dos resultados um do outro) mediram manualmente o intervalo QT e a sua dispers&#227;o no mesmo tra&#231;ado eletrocardiogr&#225;fico em dois momentos diferentes, com um intervalo de uma semana entre as medi&#231;&#245;es. A maioria dos estudos anteriores que consideraram a reprodutibilidade das medidas de QTc e QTcd, utilizou apenas um m&#233;todo de avalia&#231;&#227;o, especialmente o teste do coeficiente de correla&#231;&#227;o, sem contemplar os testes de concord&#226;ncia. Aplicamos tr&#234;s tipos diferentes de testes, com dois observadores diferentes chegando a uma prov&#225;vel conclus&#227;o de boa reprodutibilidade do QTc. Em contraste, o QTcd n&#227;o parece ser uma medida confi&#225;vel e reprodut&#237;vel.</p>
        <p>O presente estudo traz algumas limita&#231;&#245;es, como o n&#250;mero relativamente pequeno de pacientes e os crit&#233;rios de exclus&#227;o. Estudos futuros realizados em popula&#231;&#245;es maiores de pacientes s&#227;o necess&#225;rios para determinar o tempo ideal para medir esses par&#226;metros (pr&#233;-di&#225;lise, durante a di&#225;lise ou p&#243;s-di&#225;lise), assim como a padroniza&#231;&#227;o dos pontos de corte para esses par&#226;metros, t&#233;cnicas de mensura&#231;&#227;o e corre&#231;&#227;o para a frequ&#234;ncia card&#237;aca.</p>
        <p>
          <bold>Atenciosamente,</bold>
        </p>
        <p>Maria Ang&#233;lica Gon&#231;alves Alonso</p>
        <p>Valentine de Almeida Costa de Castro Lima</p>
        <p>Maria Angela Magalh&#227;es de Queiroz Carreira</p>
        <p>Jocemir Ronaldo Lugon</p>
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